Robert Cioffi and Elizabeth Joyce


E-mail Exchange Round 4


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Robert Cioffi responded:

Subject: [...]
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 16:39:58
From: "Robert Cioffi" <[email protected]>
To: "John Blanton" <[email protected]>

Well. At least your prompt.

I have no interest in your money. I do not wish to be compensated for stating a belief.

Priests & Rabbis also do not post web sites, as you do. I am sure you would "challenge" them if they did not echo what you believe to be pure "scientific" logic. However, I do not Pshhaw everything you post on your site, just some of it. I haven't had the time yet to review your past postings, I am a fairly busy executive ( to answer you).

As I stated in my first e-mail, I happened across your tab in Google's listings under "Elizabeth Joyce", a posting which in itself is an attack tactic which minimizes your purported "open minded" position. Again, I responded from and due to my experience with Elizabeth. I know her to be honest, caring and sincere. I do not know that as the case with you or your associates. I have been called a fool on occasion, usually by union organizers, or by vendors whose products I refused to purchase. I am honored if you categorize me as such since it only proves my original point. I have told you that Elizabeth has been very accurate with me time and time again. You will not change my mind. I have had way more experience with her than what is posted on her web site. And, sir, I do not think everything she envisions or posts on her site will happen. Some of it will, some of it won't. Just like everything you post on your site is not foolish or pedantic. Right now, with me, her track record is better than yours. Others can draw their own conclusions.

I'm glad you will allow a "letters to the editor" section. Glad I could be of help. But your newsletters go back over a decade, Were you suddenly overwhelmed by guilt? I am sure you will re-evaluate her site, and dish up more of the same type of responses. You should return to your prior posting and update and clarify the prior evaluation. I have noticed that timing is not absolute. So that will allow you enough latitude for mischief and mayhem.

Regards.

Subject: Re: Elizabeth Joyce
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 20:41:50 -0500
From: John Blanton <[email protected]>
Organization: The North Texas Skeptics
To: Robert Cioffi <[email protected]>

Hello again, Robert.

I am sorry you are not interested in the money. We offer it to anybody who can demonstrate conclusive evidence of the paranormal. So far nobody has successfully challenged us for the money. Actually, everybody who has challenged us has expressed disdain for the money. There seems to be a pattern here.

In answer to your reference about a "letters" section, we have always had a policy of printing letters from readers. So far this has been associated with the newsletter only. Earlier this year we established the guest book feature, which lets site visitors leave messages.

Early in September I started up the feature related to challenges. You are the second respondent since then, so you are number two in that section. Check out the current chain of correspondence at the following URL:

http://www.ntskeptics.org/challenge/cioffi/e-mail.htm

I did not quite understand your note about our being "suddenly overwhelmed by guilt." Please elaborate on that if you will.

Your reference about Elizabeth Joyce happily reminded me I had not visited that topic recently. I think it previously proved to be a popular feature with our readers, so I was an idiot to neglect the topic for so long. I likely assumed she had faded from view. Good to hear she is still in business.

I'm going to do this: I will post Elizabeth Joyce's predictions, and I will make some predictions of my own. At the end of a year we will see who has the best track record. Watch for it. This is going to be fun.

With best regards,

John Blanton
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The North Texas Skeptics
http://www.ntskeptics.org

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